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Contents
- Introduction
- Jacob Have I loved, Esau have I hated
- Twins irreconcilably struggle for Dominion
- Reconciled by the gospel
- The church contains Edom, Amos 9:11-12
- Pretribulation Messianic Kingdom of David
(where Israel possesses the remnant of Edom) - Scriptures affirming the future Resurrection and Reign of King David
- Remnant Messianic groups forming along tribal lines,
- Coalescing into Israelite and Edomite tribes - “Esau” - What’s in a Name?
- Esau throwing off the Yoke
- America is Esau/Edom America is the new Rome / proto Babylon
- Notable Edomites in the bible, some bad, some good
- The elder shall serve the younger
- The binding of Isaac and the gospel and remnant of Edom
- Mt Zion - Heavenly then Earthly
- -Regathered from destroyed America and western world after WW3 Palmtrees of smoke
- Edom comes under Judah
- Edomite antipathy towards the priesthood of Levi.
- What good does the Remnant of Edom bring? - Purity, holiness, wisdom, right judgement, faith!
- Conclusion
The Eagle is the symbol of Rome and Esau/Edom. Jacob lives in the USA alongside Esau but Esau has gained dominion and thrown off the light yoke of Yeshua and his Torah. Esau rules.
Introduction
The remnant of the 10 lost tribes of the House of Israel are awakening to the Torah, Sabbath and Feasts etc. Since the Protestant Reformation and the discovery of the 'New World' the bulk of the 10 lost tribes of the House of Israel left Europe and now dwells in the USA.
What is not so well known is that along with the 10 lost tribes, Esau came too. Wherever Jacob is, there is Esau along side him, to serve him and gain dominion.
Over the last 100 years Esau has gained dominion via the plotting of the nefarious Jesuit and Freemason brotherhoods and their connections to big business. They all but run the main line churches. When Jacob drops the ball, Esau picks it up. The behind the scenes political, religious and economic power structures in the western world all go back to Rome. The Roman Empire has not gone away. The Roman empire rules through the Vatican. Business is good. And the USA is now the military wing of Rome. The power structures that run Rome's empire are 'White'! Even the Jews ultimately bow down before Rome (although not completely!). Edom is white, like the bulk of the 10 lost tribes of the House of Israel. Edom has a very strong connection to Freemasonry, the occult and the Roman Catholic Church.
There is also a remnant of Edom that has faith in Yeshua and is also awakening to the Torah. Although Jacob got the birthright and blessing from his older brother Esau / Edom there has always been some of Edom that have followed the Lord God יהוה אלהים of Israel. This was true in Old Testament times and has been especially true during the ‘gospel age’. The New Testament makes that clear as we shall see later.
So what is going on with Esau and what is the purpose for those that are descended from him by blood but are born of God by the Spirit? What will happen to the remnant of Esau when it is time for the lost tribes to exit the USA and elsewhere for the 'North Country' and ultimately, the land of Israel? What is happening now with Esau as our God hating LGBT culture commits suicide and rushes headlong into World War 3 and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and exodus?
What is not so well known is that along with the 10 lost tribes, Esau came too. Wherever Jacob is, there is Esau along side him, to serve him and gain dominion.
Over the last 100 years Esau has gained dominion via the plotting of the nefarious Jesuit and Freemason brotherhoods and their connections to big business. They all but run the main line churches. When Jacob drops the ball, Esau picks it up. The behind the scenes political, religious and economic power structures in the western world all go back to Rome. The Roman Empire has not gone away. The Roman empire rules through the Vatican. Business is good. And the USA is now the military wing of Rome. The power structures that run Rome's empire are 'White'! Even the Jews ultimately bow down before Rome (although not completely!). Edom is white, like the bulk of the 10 lost tribes of the House of Israel. Edom has a very strong connection to Freemasonry, the occult and the Roman Catholic Church.
There is also a remnant of Edom that has faith in Yeshua and is also awakening to the Torah. Although Jacob got the birthright and blessing from his older brother Esau / Edom there has always been some of Edom that have followed the Lord God יהוה אלהים of Israel. This was true in Old Testament times and has been especially true during the ‘gospel age’. The New Testament makes that clear as we shall see later.
So what is going on with Esau and what is the purpose for those that are descended from him by blood but are born of God by the Spirit? What will happen to the remnant of Esau when it is time for the lost tribes to exit the USA and elsewhere for the 'North Country' and ultimately, the land of Israel? What is happening now with Esau as our God hating LGBT culture commits suicide and rushes headlong into World War 3 and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and exodus?
Jacob Have I loved, Esau have I hated
Most folks reading this article should be familiar with Esau and his destiny. The Lord hates Esau correct?
Malachi 1:1-5
1 מַשָּׂא דְבַר־יְהוָה אֶל־יִשְׂרָאֵל בְּיַד מַלְאָכִֽי׃
2 אָהַבְתִּי אֶתְכֶם אָמַר יְהוָה וַאֲמַרְתֶּם בַּמָּה אֲהַבְתָּנוּ הֲלֹוא־אָח עֵשָׂו לְיַֽעֲקֹב נְאֻם־יְהוָה וָאֹהַב אֶֽת־יַעֲקֹֽב׃
3 וְאֶת־עֵשָׂו שָׂנֵאתִי וָאָשִׂים אֶת־הָרָיו שְׁמָמָה וְאֶת־נַחֲלָתֹו לְתַנֹּות מִדְבָּֽר׃
4 כִּֽי־תֹאמַר אֱדֹום רֻשַּׁשְׁנוּ וְנָשׁוּב וְנִבְנֶה חֳרָבֹות כֹּה אָמַר יְהוָה צְבָאֹות הֵמָּה יִבְנוּ וַאֲנִי אֶהֱרֹוס וְקָרְאוּ לָהֶם גְּבוּל רִשְׁעָה וְהָעָם אֲשֶׁר־זָעַם יְהוָה עַד־עֹולָֽם׃
5 וְעֵינֵיכֶם תִּרְאֶינָה וְאַתֶּם תֹּֽאמְרוּ יִגְדַּל יְהוָה מֵעַל לִגְבוּל יִשְׂרָאֵֽל׃
1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
5 And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.
Yes this is correct. The Lord hated Esau. Jacob was His, Esau was the spiritual seed of the wicked one, Satan. The hostility that Esau harbours for his brother Jacob will ultimately be punished by the Lord with complete destruction of his entire race!
Though Edom returns to his mountain home in Bozrah / Petra after World War 3, ultimately the Lord shall bring it to nothing. Though he sets his nest on high like the eagle yet he will be brought down like Lucifer.
Obadiah 1:4
אִם־תַּגְבִּיהַּ כַּנֶּשֶׁר וְאִם־בֵּין כֹּֽוכָבִים שִׂים קִנֶּךָ מִשָּׁם אֹורִֽידְךָ נְאֻם־יְהוָֽה׃
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
Edom's territory in Bozrah, below the dead sea and acroos the Jordan. 'The border of wickedness', Malachi 1:4. A place of safety for Esau?
Edomites make their pilgrimage to the 'Eagles Nest' ('Kehlsteinhaus' in German). Hitler was from Amalek which is a grandson of Edom. Much of Edom dwelt in Germany as well as Britain and other Germanic countries where also the 10 lost tribes where scattered. Most have migrated to the USA and other English speaking lands where Jacob is. How apt that Hitler's place of safety was related to the eagle and was a mountain high rocky fortress like Edom's ancient territory in Bozrah / Seir / Petra. Some things are in the blood for sure.
Israel and Judah will destroy Edom completely at the return of our Saviour, Yeshua.
Obadiah 1:18, 21
18 וְהָיָה בֵית־יַעֲקֹב אֵשׁ וּבֵית יֹוסֵף לֶהָבָה וּבֵית עֵשָׂו לְקַשׁ וְדָלְקוּ בָהֶם וַאֲכָלוּם
וְלֹֽא־יִֽהְיֶה שָׂרִיד לְבֵית עֵשָׂו כִּי יְהוָה דִּבֵּֽר׃
21 וְעָלוּ מֹֽושִׁעִים בְּהַר צִיֹּון לִשְׁפֹּט אֶת־הַר עֵשָׂו וְהָיְתָה לַֽיהוָה הַמְּלוּכָֽה׃
18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them;
and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.
21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.
Hmm -ultimately pretty grim for Esau. That is for a future date. However there is a destiny for the remnant of Esau that are called by the name of the Lord as we shall see.
Twins irreconcilably struggle for Dominion
We read in Genesis that Esau and Jacob are going to be in constant connection with each other and in opposition to each other as they represent to irreconcilable ways of doing things, one ultimately is the light while the other is the darkness. The struggle in the womb is but a foretaste…
Genesis 25:21-22
21 וַיֶּעְתַּר יִצְחָק לַֽיהוָה לְנֹכַח אִשְׁתֹּו כִּי עֲקָרָה הִוא וַיֵּעָתֶר לֹו יְהוָה וַתַּהַר רִבְקָה אִשְׁתֹּֽו׃
22 וַיִּתְרֹֽצֲצוּ הַבָּנִים בְּקִרְבָּהּ וַתֹּאמֶר אִם־כֵּן לָמָּה זֶּה אָנֹכִי וַתֵּלֶךְ לִדְרֹשׁ אֶת־יְהוָֽה׃
23 וַיֹּאמֶר יְהוָה לָהּ שְׁנֵי גֹיִים בְּבִטְנֵךְ וּשְׁנֵי לְאֻמִּים מִמֵּעַיִךְ יִפָּרֵדוּ
21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.
22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.
23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels;
Jacob and Esau are irreconcilable forces or manner of peoples. One Carnal and the other Spiritual. One the spiritual seed of Satan, the other the spiritual seed of God. The wrestling in the womb continues in the womb of this world.
Reading on in Genesis we read that hairy Esau is the “man’s man”, the man of the field, Gen 25:27, the outdoorsy sportsman hunter type. Smooth Jacob in contrast is a bit of a mummy’s boy. But Jacob will grow into a real man, a man of God in fact, while Esau will just increase in this world by natural talent and then just grow old having no relationship with the Lord. Esau is a force of nature so to speak, a self-made man. But like a shooting star he is only a temporary man and ultimately yesterday's hero. Meanwhile Jacob is a creation of God and is still being formed by God and ultimately set or 'made' (like Esau was 'made), Isaiah 43:7. Esau, עשו, was also ready made from the womb, his name denotes note only 'hairy' but also 'made', עשה, asa. But Esau was made for temporary purposes. Jacob was however not ready made from the womb, but was still being formed in this world through his struggle with Esau and with God. Ultimately like God, Jacob is eternal and good whereas Esau is temporary and evil. Jacob prized what Esau despised. When the Bride makes herself ready, Satan will fall with his host, Rev 12, and Esau has 3.5 years before he is destroyed. Jacob will be fully made by this stage and take on the hairy mantle of Esau so to speak when the Messiah Yeshua and the descendants of Judah and Joseph visit Edom's territory Bozrah and Mt Seir, Esau's capital, with judgement and burning and rivers of blood.
But while Jacob is young his relationship to his brother is one based on fear. Jacob supplants and tricks Esau and is consequently afraid for his life. It takes many years for the Lord to straighten Jacob out and teach him to trust the Lord instead of trying to make things work out through trickery and manipulation (as seed of the woman, a very feminine thing to do). Even after wrestling with the Lord, Jacob still bows to Esau seven times. But Jacob ultimately inherits the promised land while Esau gains a temporary dominion. Esau's dominion is currently very strong but it is falling apart, as Esau controls the post christian western world via Rome.
The enmity and irreconcilable ways of doing things do not stop with the death of Jacob and Esau, but continue through their descendants today.
In the past, war between Israel and Edom occurred in the time of King David. That time Israel prevailed. Esau had a part in killing the Messiah via Roman Pontius Pilat. Later Rome / Edom destroyed Jerusalem. When Jacob is down, Esau is up, gaining dominion.
The destruction of the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel do not end the interaction between Esau and Jacob, but they continue through to our day. Just as the Israelites have migrated and many have lost their identity so too has Esau moved about with him and serve Jacob as we shall discuss later.
Reading on in Genesis we read that hairy Esau is the “man’s man”, the man of the field, Gen 25:27, the outdoorsy sportsman hunter type. Smooth Jacob in contrast is a bit of a mummy’s boy. But Jacob will grow into a real man, a man of God in fact, while Esau will just increase in this world by natural talent and then just grow old having no relationship with the Lord. Esau is a force of nature so to speak, a self-made man. But like a shooting star he is only a temporary man and ultimately yesterday's hero. Meanwhile Jacob is a creation of God and is still being formed by God and ultimately set or 'made' (like Esau was 'made), Isaiah 43:7. Esau, עשו, was also ready made from the womb, his name denotes note only 'hairy' but also 'made', עשה, asa. But Esau was made for temporary purposes. Jacob was however not ready made from the womb, but was still being formed in this world through his struggle with Esau and with God. Ultimately like God, Jacob is eternal and good whereas Esau is temporary and evil. Jacob prized what Esau despised. When the Bride makes herself ready, Satan will fall with his host, Rev 12, and Esau has 3.5 years before he is destroyed. Jacob will be fully made by this stage and take on the hairy mantle of Esau so to speak when the Messiah Yeshua and the descendants of Judah and Joseph visit Edom's territory Bozrah and Mt Seir, Esau's capital, with judgement and burning and rivers of blood.
But while Jacob is young his relationship to his brother is one based on fear. Jacob supplants and tricks Esau and is consequently afraid for his life. It takes many years for the Lord to straighten Jacob out and teach him to trust the Lord instead of trying to make things work out through trickery and manipulation (as seed of the woman, a very feminine thing to do). Even after wrestling with the Lord, Jacob still bows to Esau seven times. But Jacob ultimately inherits the promised land while Esau gains a temporary dominion. Esau's dominion is currently very strong but it is falling apart, as Esau controls the post christian western world via Rome.
The enmity and irreconcilable ways of doing things do not stop with the death of Jacob and Esau, but continue through their descendants today.
In the past, war between Israel and Edom occurred in the time of King David. That time Israel prevailed. Esau had a part in killing the Messiah via Roman Pontius Pilat. Later Rome / Edom destroyed Jerusalem. When Jacob is down, Esau is up, gaining dominion.
The destruction of the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel do not end the interaction between Esau and Jacob, but they continue through to our day. Just as the Israelites have migrated and many have lost their identity so too has Esau moved about with him and serve Jacob as we shall discuss later.
Reconciled by the gospel
 | The goodness of God to Israel does not stop with gathering in the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The Lord gathers in the gentiles through the proclaiming of salvation through Yeshua. The Messiah's mission in His first coming is listed here in Isaiah 49:6. He raises up the tribes of Israel (through the gospel) including the lost tribes (preserved 'Notzri'/Christians) and finally the gentiles. The Edomites are gentiles. But they are high up the ladder being sons of Isaac and Abraham. |
Isaiah 49:6
6 וַיֹּאמֶר נָקֵל מִֽהְיֹותְךָ לִי עֶבֶד לְהָקִים אֶת־שִׁבְטֵי יַעֲקֹב וּנְצִירֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל לְהָשִׁיב וּנְתַתִּיךָ לְאֹור גֹּויִם לִֽהְיֹות יְשׁוּעָתִי עַד־קְצֵה הָאָֽרֶץ׃
6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
Esau will be a big part of the church as he is busy serving Jacob and seeking dominion over him according to the blessings of their father Isaac.
The church contains Edom, Amos 9:11-12
Back in the book of Acts chapter 15, James (Yaakov) quotes Amos 9:11 and 12 and explains how the ‘residue of men’ are prophesied to seek the Lord after the tabernacle of David is raised up. This is a very significant prophecy because Esau is hidden within it as will be discovered by reading Amos 9:12. Let’s see the quote in Acts 15 first…
Acts 15:13-20
13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
And now let us compare that quote with that in Amos 9:11-12…
Amos 9:11-12
11 בַּיֹּום הַהוּא אָקִים אֶת־סֻכַּת דָּוִיד הַנֹּפֶלֶת וְגָדַרְתִּי אֶת־פִּרְצֵיהֶן וַהֲרִֽסֹתָיו אָקִים וּבְנִיתִיהָ כִּימֵי עֹולָֽם׃
12 לְמַעַן יִֽירְשׁוּ אֶת־שְׁאֵרִית אֱדֹום וְכָל־הַגֹּויִם אֲשֶׁר־נִקְרָא שְׁמִי עֲלֵיהֶם נְאֻם־יְהוָה עֹשֶׂה זֹּֽאת׃
11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
In the Acts 15:17 quote from Amos 9:12, “remnant of Edom”, אֶת־שְׁאֵרִית אֱדֹום, is translated as “residue of men”. So this is both an inspired reinterpretation and a gloss that hides the fact that Esau is being gathered into the ‘church’ (or 'congregation' of Israel if you don’t like that word).
Pretribulation Messianic Kingdom of David
(where Israel possesses the remnant of Edom)
And so we know that the remnant of Esau will be around after David’s fallen tabernacle is raised up. David’s fallen tabernacle (Sukkah) refers to the Davidic Kingdom, temple and Levitical worship. I have spoken about the meaning of the phrase, “the tabernacle of David that is fallen” in detail on the video titled “The Kingdom of David”. David and his kingdom and temple worship is restored when the 10 lost tribes of the house of Israel are regathered as the scriptures make clear as we shall see shortly.
Scriptures affirming the future Resurrection and Reign of King David
King David shall Reign again! The following verses refer to King David and do not refer to Yeshua. The Lord God of Israel can spell. David means David. The Lord is going to raise up King David over a reunited Israel and Judah. He will be the King of a United Kingdom once more. Yeshua however will return later as King of Kings at the end of the tribulation.
Jeremiah 30:9-10
9וְעָבְדוּ אֵּת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵּיהֶם וְאֵּת דָוִד מַלְכָם אֲשֶר אָקִים לָהֶם׃
10וְאַתָה אַל־תִירָא עַבְדִי יַעֲקֹב נְאֻם־יְהֹוָה וְאַל־תֵּחַת יִשְרָאֵל כִי הִנְנִי מֹושִֹֽיעֲךָ מֵֹּֽרָחֹוק וְאֶֹֽת־זַרְעֲךָ מֵּאֶרֶץ שִבְיָם וְשָב יַעֲקֹב וְשָקַט וְשַאֲנַן וְאֵּין מַחֲרִיד׃
9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
Not convinced? Here's another scripture saying the same thing...
Ezekiel 34:23-24
וַהֲקִמֹתִי עֲלֵּיהֶם רֹעֶה אֶחָד וְרָעָה אֶתְהֶן אֵּת עַבְדִי דָוִיד הוּא יִרְעֶה אֹתָם וְהוּא־יִהְיֶה לָהֶן לְרֹעֶה׃
וַאֲנִי יְהוָה אֶהְיֶה לָהֶם לֵּאלֹהִים וְעַבְדִי דָוִד נָשִיא בְתֹוכָם אֲנִי יְהוָה דִבַרְתִי׃
23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
Still unsure? Maybe it should be stated again? Remember Yeshua is the Branch, the Son of David. But this prophecy concerns David himself, not the branch, not Yeshua. How obvious does the Lord need to make it that He is going to raise up King David? Read on...
Ezekiel 37:24-25
24וְעַבְדִי דָוִד מֶלֶךְ עֲלֵּיהֶם וְרֹועֶה אֶחָד יִהְיֶה לְכֻלָם וּבְמִשְפָטַי יֵּלֵּכוּ וְחֻקֹתַי יִשְמְרוּ וְעָשוּ אֹותָם׃
25וְיָשְבוּ עַל־הָאָרֶץ אֲשֶר נָתַתִי לְעַבְדִי לְיַעֲקֹב אֲשֶר יָֹֽשְבוּ־בָהּ אֲבֹותֵּיכֶם וְיָשְבוּ עָלֶיהָ הֵּמָה וּבְנֵּיהֶם וּבְנֵּי בְנֵּיהֶם עַד־עֹולָם וְ דָוִד עַבְדִי נָשִיא לָהֶם לְעֹולָם׃
24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Still doubting Thomas? Look here in Hosea. Same thing. The children of Israel once united in one kingdom will seek the Lord God and David their King!!!! in the Latter Days...
Hosea 3:5-5
5אַחַר יָשֻבוּ בְנֵּי יִשְרָאֵּל וּבִקְשוּ אֶת־יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵּיהֶם
וְאֵּת דָוִד מַלְכָם וּפָחֲדוּ אֶל־יְהוָה
וְאֶל־טוּבֹו בְ אַחֲרִית הַיָמִים׃
3 And I said unto her, Thou shalt abide for me many days; thou shalt not play the harlot, and thou shalt not be for another man: so will I also be for thee.
4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:
5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return,
and seek the LORD their God, and David their king;
and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
During the many days that the children of Israel have been without a king and without a prince and without a sacrifice etc, the Lord has been building his 'church' or congregation, 'Kohellet' or 'Adat' in Hebrew. The congregation of Israel.
But afterwards, in accordance with Acts 15:16-17 big things come (before the tribulation) -a Reunited Israel and Judah.
David is raised up. Along with his resurrection, according to Amos 9:11-12, there is a regathering of the remnant of Edom that is possessed by a regathered Israel under a reunited kingdom ruled by King David.
This raising of David's fallen tabernacle and regathering of Israel must occur before the tribulation because Esau is destroyed when the 'Kingdom is the Lord’s' as we are told in Obadiah 1:21.
But afterwards, in accordance with Acts 15:16-17 big things come (before the tribulation) -a Reunited Israel and Judah.
David is raised up. Along with his resurrection, according to Amos 9:11-12, there is a regathering of the remnant of Edom that is possessed by a regathered Israel under a reunited kingdom ruled by King David.
This raising of David's fallen tabernacle and regathering of Israel must occur before the tribulation because Esau is destroyed when the 'Kingdom is the Lord’s' as we are told in Obadiah 1:21.
Obadiah 1:21
וְעָלוּ מֹֽושִׁעִים בְּהַר צִיֹּון
לִשְׁפֹּט אֶת־הַר עֵשָׂו
וְהָיְתָה לַֽיהוָה הַמְּלוּכָֽה׃
And saviours shall come up on mount Zion
to judge the mount of Esau;
and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S
The time when the Kingdom is the Lord’s is detailed in Revelation 11:15 when all other kingdoms come under his dominion and Israel is finally over all nations under the King of Kings.
Revelation 11:15
And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,
The kingdoms of this world
are become
the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever
Remnant Messianic groups forming along tribal lines,
- Coalescing into Israelite and Edomite tribes
So we know that the remnant of Edom must be raised up now with the remnant of the 10 lost tribes of the House of Israel. There will be a coming together of Israel after a nuclear world war (“palmtrees of smoke”, Joel 2:30) but before the tribulation as I have explained copiously in many articles on this 10losttribes.com website.
America and the western world will be judged but out of it will come a remnant of Esau and Jacob in faith. Edom is not finished yet. There is still good in the remnant. So therefore we should expect groups of messianic believers to come together that are Edomite believers in Yeshua who will also join with the house of Israel or the house of Judah in their regathering. Notice in verse 12 of Amos 9 that Israel possesses the remnant of Edom and not the other way around! Edom does not posses Israel!
The remnant of Edom will attach to either the House of Judah or the House of Israel. The rest of Edom will try and set up in their ancient land of Edom in the current state of Jordan after World War 3. The Lord will uproot this at His Return at the end of the tribulation.
The current state of Israel (actually Judah) is hostile to believers in Yeshua whether Jewish or 10 lost tribes or other gentiles. At present, the Jewish state of Israel is being controlled by the Vatican via various globalist organizations as a secular state. Not completely, but enough to hem the Jews in and tie them into a false peace process. At present, just like in Yeshua's day, the Jewish secular and religious leaders have no king but Caesar.
America and the western world will be judged but out of it will come a remnant of Esau and Jacob in faith. Edom is not finished yet. There is still good in the remnant. So therefore we should expect groups of messianic believers to come together that are Edomite believers in Yeshua who will also join with the house of Israel or the house of Judah in their regathering. Notice in verse 12 of Amos 9 that Israel possesses the remnant of Edom and not the other way around! Edom does not posses Israel!
The remnant of Edom will attach to either the House of Judah or the House of Israel. The rest of Edom will try and set up in their ancient land of Edom in the current state of Jordan after World War 3. The Lord will uproot this at His Return at the end of the tribulation.
The current state of Israel (actually Judah) is hostile to believers in Yeshua whether Jewish or 10 lost tribes or other gentiles. At present, the Jewish state of Israel is being controlled by the Vatican via various globalist organizations as a secular state. Not completely, but enough to hem the Jews in and tie them into a false peace process. At present, just like in Yeshua's day, the Jewish secular and religious leaders have no king but Caesar.
John 19:15
But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them,
Shall I crucify your King?
The chief priests answered,
We have no king but Caesar
2000 years have passed but the song remains the same.
And while we are on the topic of who serves who, who do you think the Jewish bankers work for? The Pope, that is who! Rome rules, not Zion. The Zionists work for the Jesuits. But some of them want it the other way around, but that cant happen until they collectively repent concerning their crucified King, King Yeshua who is the Son of David, the branch, and YHVH יהוה, in the flesh.
This will change when the Jews fight for Jerusalem and morn for the one they pierced, even Yeshua who is YHVH יהוה, as described in Zechariah 12. Before the tribulation, at about the time of the regathering of all the remnant of Israel and Judah.
In the meantime as our secular nations implode and become like Sodom and Gomorrah there is a remnant of Edom coming together in the USA and elsewhere as well as a remnant of the House of Israel.
You will feel like some two house fellowships feel like home and others do not. There is a bit of shuffling going on, but people will generally feel comfortable amongst their own kind, by spirit, by soul, by kindred and by tribe etc.
And while we are on the topic of who serves who, who do you think the Jewish bankers work for? The Pope, that is who! Rome rules, not Zion. The Zionists work for the Jesuits. But some of them want it the other way around, but that cant happen until they collectively repent concerning their crucified King, King Yeshua who is the Son of David, the branch, and YHVH יהוה, in the flesh.
This will change when the Jews fight for Jerusalem and morn for the one they pierced, even Yeshua who is YHVH יהוה, as described in Zechariah 12. Before the tribulation, at about the time of the regathering of all the remnant of Israel and Judah.
In the meantime as our secular nations implode and become like Sodom and Gomorrah there is a remnant of Edom coming together in the USA and elsewhere as well as a remnant of the House of Israel.
You will feel like some two house fellowships feel like home and others do not. There is a bit of shuffling going on, but people will generally feel comfortable amongst their own kind, by spirit, by soul, by kindred and by tribe etc.
“Esau” - What’s in a Name?
Esau’s name is an interesting one. Esau which is related to the idea of being ready made and hairy is made up of 3 letters, עשו. Rearranging the letters and adding a Yod י, spells Yeshua, ישוע. Yod has a numeric value of 10 which reminds us of the 10 commandments. The Yod also reminds us of the Father, as the first letter in the Tetragrammaton, יהוה. And so the remnant of Esau who belong to the Lord have 3 of the four letters of Yeshua, and you could say that through faith and obedience to the Lord through God’s Son and his commandments, they have the Yod as well.
Esau throwing off the Yoke
I guess this underlies one of the reasons why the Lord rejected Esau. Esau belonged to the enemy because he had rejected God and God's ways and God’s law, even though in some ways he had the right stuff otherwise. But as long as the descendants of Esau do not throw off Yeshua’s easy and light Yoke, Gen 27:40, Mat 11:29,30, 1 Tim 6:1 (which is the same Yoke of torah because Yeshua is the ‘Word’, John 1:1) they still have a place in God’s Kingdom. And so they are not doomed because of their ancestry. If they want to repent and follow the Lord they can. And some always have. And there will always be a remnant of Esau that believes right until the end when there is no repentance left in Esau’s descendants at all (when the end of Obadiah’s prophecy is fulfilled).
No matter who we are there are choices we can make, and we are answerable for our free will choices. None of us can choose our ancestry, but we can all choose what we do. A wise man once said, “as for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord”, Joshua 24:15.
No matter who we are there are choices we can make, and we are answerable for our free will choices. None of us can choose our ancestry, but we can all choose what we do. A wise man once said, “as for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord”, Joshua 24:15.
America is Esau/Edom
America is the new Rome / proto Babylon
The land of Esau (and Jacob) . WW2 picture of American Eagle, a stylized Roman Eagle with the Roman fascist bundle of arrows or sticks. Ironically the picture is from a propaganda newsreel cartoon about the NAZI Axis plans for invasion of Europe and then Britain and then finally the good old USA. The government of Germany and the USA were in fact already controlled by Rome during world war 2. And America would later take in the NAZI's anyway after the Jews in Europe were eliminated. Uncle Sam conquered Germany and rescued the NAZI's.
As discussed earlier, Edom’s land includes Petra by the way! We all know that Esau is related to the name for goat and that his capital city Seir means goat. But one of the main symbols of Edom is the Eagle, Obadiah 1:4! The American Eagle is more symbolic of Esau than Israel, although it is also used to describe Israel also. The Eagle is the symbol of imperial Rome and later on it is the Holy Roman empire (Reich) of Germany.
Now the USA is Rome’s military wing and is very much run by Esau through Catholicism and freemasonry. The Vatican controls the banks in the USA and the Federal Reserve. Smaller mom & dad businesses have been swallowed up by multinational conglomerates. Franchises and near monopolies cover the economic landscape. Much of the industry has been farmed off to China and other nations. 'Made in the USA' has been replaced by 'made in China'. The USA is now controlled by the Vatican, it is the Pope’s Eagle fighting the Popes wars under the Pope's Catholic Generals. By the way, FOX News, the 'more christian' news channel is owned and run by Catholic's. FOX = 6 + 60 + 600 = 666.
President Trump will most likely make America great again just like Adolf Hitler made Germany great again, only to use it for his own purposes. At some stage the guns will be taken off the people. Then the Walmarts can be used as internment camps, probably when America is at war in a major way. This is guess work on my part. But it makes no sense to have empty FEMA camps and empty Walmarts. The only thing that would prevent concentration camps is an armed populace.
Over the last century America has been a place where the political mechanisms for world government have been built via various think tanks and NGO's. The United Nations in New York is mini form of Babylon which spreads its antichrist, Israel bashing, communist, new age philosophy world wide.
As the protestant descendants of Jacob have become less devout, Esau / Rome has filled in the vacuum. In the USA the protestant descendants of Jacob (10 lost tribes) have increasingly turned away from the gospel. So too have the Protestant and Catholic descendants of Esau.
As we move away from the bible we move towards tyranny in the USA, Australia and the rest of the once christian western world. The USA has turned into a police state with a permanently mobilized army fighting terrorism while at the same time secretly funding it!
President Trump will most likely make America great again just like Adolf Hitler made Germany great again, only to use it for his own purposes. At some stage the guns will be taken off the people. Then the Walmarts can be used as internment camps, probably when America is at war in a major way. This is guess work on my part. But it makes no sense to have empty FEMA camps and empty Walmarts. The only thing that would prevent concentration camps is an armed populace.
Over the last century America has been a place where the political mechanisms for world government have been built via various think tanks and NGO's. The United Nations in New York is mini form of Babylon which spreads its antichrist, Israel bashing, communist, new age philosophy world wide.
As the protestant descendants of Jacob have become less devout, Esau / Rome has filled in the vacuum. In the USA the protestant descendants of Jacob (10 lost tribes) have increasingly turned away from the gospel. So too have the Protestant and Catholic descendants of Esau.
As we move away from the bible we move towards tyranny in the USA, Australia and the rest of the once christian western world. The USA has turned into a police state with a permanently mobilized army fighting terrorism while at the same time secretly funding it!
But there is still a small remnant of Jacob and Esau that follow the Lord.
Although the American military complex is Edomite and controlled by Rome, there is still a remnant of Esau that has not thrown off the light Yoke of Yeshua and His commandments. This remnant is to be loved by Israel, Deut 21:7 because the God of Israel is their Father too!
Although the American military complex is Edomite and controlled by Rome, there is still a remnant of Esau that has not thrown off the light Yoke of Yeshua and His commandments. This remnant is to be loved by Israel, Deut 21:7 because the God of Israel is their Father too!
Notable Edomites in the bible, some bad, some good
Esau
Obviously Esau the father of the Edomites was a man of the flesh and did not follow the Lord. He sold his birthright to Jacob for a pot of HaAdom HaAdom, from which he gets his name, Edom, Gen 25:30. Later he lost his blessing to Jacob. Esau put his carnal desires first. Esau did not love God. But some of his descendants did!
Caleb
Can we imagine an exodus without the good mention of dear Caleb? He was an awesome man of faith! Who would not want to have Caleb as a brother. He was one of the two spies that brought a good report. He was a doer of the word, not just a hearer. He was a man of valour and the sword. He was part of the tribe of Judah in the line of Hezron.
But he was a Kenezite, Num 32:12. Kenez was from Edom, Gen 36:11. So how do we reconcile the Hezron - Kenez thing? Easy. He was an Edomite proselyte that fitted in snugly into the tribe of Judah. And there he did marvelous good. The swordsmanship of Esau was used for the service of Almighty God in the defence of Israel and the destruction of the Lord's enemies as Israel possessed the land allotted to her. And despite Caleb being a gentile in the flesh, even from Edom, he was graciously given a portion in Hebron. You see Caleb may have been a gentile 'dog', outside the covenant of promise and without hope in the world. But the Lord who was rich in mercy brought him near to Him. Why? Because Caleb had another spirit in him. Caleb, כלב, means 'dog', but 'dog' means 'all heart', cal-leb, כל לב and Caleb, from Edom via Kenez was like Esau, a man of action and the sword. But he was also a Edomite with another spirit in Him, the spirit of adoption, by which he cried, abba father! And he was adopted into Judah and became a leader of great faith. How wonderful.
The city that he conquered was also an important as to his ancestry. Not only was it the capital city of the Kingdom of Judah, but it was also the place that both Jacob and Esau grew up in. It was Isaac's home town. Thus you can see why he longed so much to have it.
Caleb was physically from Edom, but spiritually from Judah. It's that simple. Not all that are Israel in the flesh are Israel spiritually. And not all that are not Israel in the flesh are necessarily locked out, they may be spiritually from Israel. Their spirits may be from the Heavenly Jerusalem! How good is God?!!!
In many places Caleb is called the son of Jephunneh, כָּלֵב בֶּן־יְפֻנֶּה, Deut 1:36. Interestingly Jephunneh means he turned! It is also related to the word for face. Obviously Caleb had the right stuff physically and spiritually to do what he did by faith.
Before the tribe of Judah had a leader that was from Judah by blood, they had an edomite convert who led them into the promised land. Edom was an enabler for the tribe of Judah. In a way Edom via the Vatican and the USA is enabling the Jews today to possess the land (although with one hand tied behind their back). Trump is no Israelite, neither is the Pope. The Rothschild bankers are most certainly Edomite Jews but they still helped enable the settlement of the Jews in what was then called by the British, Palestine. (By the way there will always be some Edomite Jews just like there are many Edomite Christians). Edom is allowed into the fold, Deut 23:7-8. And he is free to leave as he will do. To say all Jews are Edomites is complete nonsense and does not aline with scripture. Yes there are some Jews that are 'not Jews', Rev 2:9, 3:9. But there are far more that are Jews. Being a Jew is not exactly popular. No one in their right mind would want to become part of a despised and persecuted minority, at least not many. The Jews must survive as blood line Jews in order for prophecy to be fulfilled. To say all Jews are Edomites is the sort of thing an Edomite would say! And the Lord will hold Edom guilty for his hatred of Judah and Israel, Ezek 35:5.
Another clue as to Caleb's Edomite identity is in one of his descendants, Nabal, who's heart turned to stone when king David arrived and died 10 days later (10 days of missed repentance before the day of Atonement / Judgement). Sadly Nabal was not a man of faith like Caleb. In the flesh Edom opposes Judah and King David.
Othniel
Othniel was and Edomite from Kenaz and the brother of Caleb. Obviously this was a good family of Kenazites. The Spirit of the Lord came upon him. Yes the Spirit of the Lord God of Israel came upon a non Israelite from Edom and grafted into Judah. Not only so but he also judged Israel and went to war and the Lord was with him and he prevailed. And all the ladies said Amen.
Obviously Esau the father of the Edomites was a man of the flesh and did not follow the Lord. He sold his birthright to Jacob for a pot of HaAdom HaAdom, from which he gets his name, Edom, Gen 25:30. Later he lost his blessing to Jacob. Esau put his carnal desires first. Esau did not love God. But some of his descendants did!
Caleb
Can we imagine an exodus without the good mention of dear Caleb? He was an awesome man of faith! Who would not want to have Caleb as a brother. He was one of the two spies that brought a good report. He was a doer of the word, not just a hearer. He was a man of valour and the sword. He was part of the tribe of Judah in the line of Hezron.
But he was a Kenezite, Num 32:12. Kenez was from Edom, Gen 36:11. So how do we reconcile the Hezron - Kenez thing? Easy. He was an Edomite proselyte that fitted in snugly into the tribe of Judah. And there he did marvelous good. The swordsmanship of Esau was used for the service of Almighty God in the defence of Israel and the destruction of the Lord's enemies as Israel possessed the land allotted to her. And despite Caleb being a gentile in the flesh, even from Edom, he was graciously given a portion in Hebron. You see Caleb may have been a gentile 'dog', outside the covenant of promise and without hope in the world. But the Lord who was rich in mercy brought him near to Him. Why? Because Caleb had another spirit in him. Caleb, כלב, means 'dog', but 'dog' means 'all heart', cal-leb, כל לב and Caleb, from Edom via Kenez was like Esau, a man of action and the sword. But he was also a Edomite with another spirit in Him, the spirit of adoption, by which he cried, abba father! And he was adopted into Judah and became a leader of great faith. How wonderful.
The city that he conquered was also an important as to his ancestry. Not only was it the capital city of the Kingdom of Judah, but it was also the place that both Jacob and Esau grew up in. It was Isaac's home town. Thus you can see why he longed so much to have it.
Caleb was physically from Edom, but spiritually from Judah. It's that simple. Not all that are Israel in the flesh are Israel spiritually. And not all that are not Israel in the flesh are necessarily locked out, they may be spiritually from Israel. Their spirits may be from the Heavenly Jerusalem! How good is God?!!!
In many places Caleb is called the son of Jephunneh, כָּלֵב בֶּן־יְפֻנֶּה, Deut 1:36. Interestingly Jephunneh means he turned! It is also related to the word for face. Obviously Caleb had the right stuff physically and spiritually to do what he did by faith.
Before the tribe of Judah had a leader that was from Judah by blood, they had an edomite convert who led them into the promised land. Edom was an enabler for the tribe of Judah. In a way Edom via the Vatican and the USA is enabling the Jews today to possess the land (although with one hand tied behind their back). Trump is no Israelite, neither is the Pope. The Rothschild bankers are most certainly Edomite Jews but they still helped enable the settlement of the Jews in what was then called by the British, Palestine. (By the way there will always be some Edomite Jews just like there are many Edomite Christians). Edom is allowed into the fold, Deut 23:7-8. And he is free to leave as he will do. To say all Jews are Edomites is complete nonsense and does not aline with scripture. Yes there are some Jews that are 'not Jews', Rev 2:9, 3:9. But there are far more that are Jews. Being a Jew is not exactly popular. No one in their right mind would want to become part of a despised and persecuted minority, at least not many. The Jews must survive as blood line Jews in order for prophecy to be fulfilled. To say all Jews are Edomites is the sort of thing an Edomite would say! And the Lord will hold Edom guilty for his hatred of Judah and Israel, Ezek 35:5.
Another clue as to Caleb's Edomite identity is in one of his descendants, Nabal, who's heart turned to stone when king David arrived and died 10 days later (10 days of missed repentance before the day of Atonement / Judgement). Sadly Nabal was not a man of faith like Caleb. In the flesh Edom opposes Judah and King David.
Othniel
Othniel was and Edomite from Kenaz and the brother of Caleb. Obviously this was a good family of Kenazites. The Spirit of the Lord came upon him. Yes the Spirit of the Lord God of Israel came upon a non Israelite from Edom and grafted into Judah. Not only so but he also judged Israel and went to war and the Lord was with him and he prevailed. And all the ladies said Amen.
Judges 3:9-10
9 And when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, the LORD raised up a deliverer to the children of Israel, who delivered them, even Othniel the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother.
10 And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he judged Israel, and went out to war: and the LORD delivered Chushanrishathaim king of Mesopotamia into his hand; and his hand prevailed against Chushanrishathaim.
Bezaleel
Bezaleel created the furnishings of the tabernacle. He was a descendant of Hur (see below) from the tribe of Judah. But again both Hur and Bezaleel were from Caleb who was grafted into Judah but came from Kenaz. He was filled with wisdom, knowledge and understanding. He was a craftsman. Craftsmanship is something related to judgement and by extension, the sword. Craftsmen have to cut wood or metal instead of flesh. Cunning is required for good soldier and for a good craftsman. Good warriors value good tools.
Hur
Helped raise Moses hands in the fight against Amalek, Ex 17:12.
Bezaleel created the furnishings of the tabernacle. He was a descendant of Hur (see below) from the tribe of Judah. But again both Hur and Bezaleel were from Caleb who was grafted into Judah but came from Kenaz. He was filled with wisdom, knowledge and understanding. He was a craftsman. Craftsmanship is something related to judgement and by extension, the sword. Craftsmen have to cut wood or metal instead of flesh. Cunning is required for good soldier and for a good craftsman. Good warriors value good tools.
Hur
Helped raise Moses hands in the fight against Amalek, Ex 17:12.
1 Chronicles 2:19-20
19 וַתָּמָת עֲזוּבָה וַיִּֽקַּֽח־לֹו כָלֵב אֶת־אֶפְרָת וַתֵּלֶד לֹו אֶת־חֽוּר׃
20 וְחוּר הֹולִיד אֶת־אוּרִי וְאוּרִי הֹולִיד אֶת־בְּצַלְאֵֽל׃
19 And when Azubah was dead, Caleb took unto him Ephrath, which bare him Hur.
20 And Hur begat Uri, and Uri begat Bezaleel.
Hur is a descendant of Caleb. Hur means white and denotes purity.
Obviously Aarons hands were not enough to uphold Moses hands and torah. Aaron is about knowledge of torah. Hur is about truth in the inward parts, purity. Thank you Father for Hur.
Doeg
We read about him in 1 Sam 21:7 through to 1 Sam 22. Doeg was an Edomite convert who killed the Levitical priests at the request of King Saul. David was not happy about this and knew he would do it. He wrote about how he felt about wicked Doeg in Psalm 52. Doeg was a man that may have come from a good edomite convert family but he went back into Edom's ways. He used his tongue to deceive and his sword to kill, with feigned piety. Nasty.
Hadad
In 1 Kings 11:14 Hadad the Edomite was raised up by the Lord as an enemy to Israel due to Israel's apostasy. This shows that when Jacob is a naughty boy, God will use his brother Esau to give him a paddy wack.
Herod
The various Herods in the Gospels and the book of Acts were notorious for their rebuilding the temple and killing Jews including John the Baptist and either persecuting the early church or not helping them. They were Idumeans, the Greek form of the word for Edomites.
Job
The last Edomite on this list is perhaps the most interesting. I mention Job last, because there is less direct evidence but very much indirect evidence, even to the point of making it obvious, at least to me. I will share some of it briefly now...
Obviously Aarons hands were not enough to uphold Moses hands and torah. Aaron is about knowledge of torah. Hur is about truth in the inward parts, purity. Thank you Father for Hur.
Doeg
We read about him in 1 Sam 21:7 through to 1 Sam 22. Doeg was an Edomite convert who killed the Levitical priests at the request of King Saul. David was not happy about this and knew he would do it. He wrote about how he felt about wicked Doeg in Psalm 52. Doeg was a man that may have come from a good edomite convert family but he went back into Edom's ways. He used his tongue to deceive and his sword to kill, with feigned piety. Nasty.
Hadad
In 1 Kings 11:14 Hadad the Edomite was raised up by the Lord as an enemy to Israel due to Israel's apostasy. This shows that when Jacob is a naughty boy, God will use his brother Esau to give him a paddy wack.
Herod
The various Herods in the Gospels and the book of Acts were notorious for their rebuilding the temple and killing Jews including John the Baptist and either persecuting the early church or not helping them. They were Idumeans, the Greek form of the word for Edomites.
Job
The last Edomite on this list is perhaps the most interesting. I mention Job last, because there is less direct evidence but very much indirect evidence, even to the point of making it obvious, at least to me. I will share some of it briefly now...
- Job, אִיֹּוב, is an anagram of enemy, אֹויֵֽב.
- Job lives in the land of Uz and one of his friends is a Temanite which locks it into the vicinity of Edom's territory.
- The events of Job occur while Israel is in Egypt while Edom is living comfortably in his allotted territory on the other side of the Jordan.
- Job concerns the conflict in the heavens between God and Satan. The Lord goes into a lot of detail about Behemoth and Leviathan. It's not just about big dinosaurs. These creatures are related to Satan and his host. Edom is the last enemy to be destroyed before the Kingdom comes fully in the person of Yeshua's bodily return to earth. Much of the latter part of Job concerns the struggle between Satan and Israel via these creatures and the course of the stars. Job was a righteous Edomite prophet.
- Job was implicated in the book of Jasher giving Pharoah the advice to afflict Israel. Job was righteous but still had his anti Israel Edomite enmity for Jacob.
The elder shall serve the younger
Continuing with the Genesis 25 verse 23 quoted above we learn that one will be stronger than the other and the elder shall serve the younger.
Genesis 25:23 (continued…)
23 … וּלְאֹם מִלְאֹם יֶֽאֱמָץ
וְרַב יַעֲבֹד צָעִֽיר׃
23 … and the one people shall be stronger than the other people;
and the elder shall serve the younger.
We see in Genesis 33 that Esau is the stronger twin as he is already a militarily man when he meets Jacob with 400 men. It is only the fact that Jacob wrestled with the man, the angel of the Lord and Penial that delivers him. It is his relationship with God that enables Jacob to prevail. The number 400 is related to the Promised Land and the struggle to secure it. In Gen 23:16 it was 400 silver shekels that Abraham purchased the tomb in the Promised Land. And Nabal, a descendant of Esau through Caleb dies after King David visits with 400 men as described in 1 Samuel 25. Then in 1 Samuel 30:17 it was 400 Amalekites that escaped king David. The Amalekites are descendants of Esau and are diametrically opposed to Israel and the true called out ecclesia of congregation (‘church’) in our day.
Military might is what Esau the hunter naturally relies on since he gave away or lost his birthright and blessing to Jacob. Jacob prised the unseen God while Esau’s portion was in this world. Continuing in the Genesis 25:23 we also (amazingly) read that Esau will serve his brother. How strange? -the one that is stronger will serve the one that is weaker. Esau will serve Jacob even though he hates him and is stronger than him! Obviously Jacob has an Ace up his slave, and that is the favour of the good Lord, Jacob is chosen!
Now here is the crunch. These promises in Genesis concerning the fate of the two twins, Jacob and Esau continue to our day. They are not limited to just bible times way back when. So Esau is still stronger than Jacob, and he is still a military man and he is still serving Jacob! The verses in Genesis concerning Esau are being fulfilled throughout the last 2000 years of the church. Indeed Esau has a prominent role within the church.
Military might is what Esau the hunter naturally relies on since he gave away or lost his birthright and blessing to Jacob. Jacob prised the unseen God while Esau’s portion was in this world. Continuing in the Genesis 25:23 we also (amazingly) read that Esau will serve his brother. How strange? -the one that is stronger will serve the one that is weaker. Esau will serve Jacob even though he hates him and is stronger than him! Obviously Jacob has an Ace up his slave, and that is the favour of the good Lord, Jacob is chosen!
Now here is the crunch. These promises in Genesis concerning the fate of the two twins, Jacob and Esau continue to our day. They are not limited to just bible times way back when. So Esau is still stronger than Jacob, and he is still a military man and he is still serving Jacob! The verses in Genesis concerning Esau are being fulfilled throughout the last 2000 years of the church. Indeed Esau has a prominent role within the church.
The binding of Isaac, the gospel and the remnant of Edom
Remember also that it was Isaac that was bound for sacrifice upon Mt Moriah. Within Isaac was the seed of both Esau and Jacob. The binding of Isaac is a picture of identification with Christ (Messiah) who was actually represented by the Ram caught in the thicket, Gen 22:13. And so the remnant of Esau has always responded to the gospel, and has come under the Yoke of the Messiah. And in these last days there will also be a remnant of Esau that not only accepts the salvation yoke of Yeshua, they will also accept the Yoke of Torah and return with Israel to the land before the tribulation and the events of Revelation 4 onwards.
Mt Zion - First Heavenly & then Earthly
No matter what our lineage, whether from Esau or Jacob or one of the other nations, we are told that we have come into the heavenly Jerusalem. Irrespective of our race, our carnal tendencies or inclinations we are being formed into something special.
Hebrews 12:22-23
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Our Lord is patient and He is also a perfectionist and promises to make just men perfect. Down here that perfecting comes with plenty of afflictions and heart aches along the way. It’s not so much where we come from but where we are going that counts.
The Lord is gathering in the sheaves and putting the wheat into His barn. During this gospel age, the Lord has been busy gathering in the remnant of Esau into His Church along with the remnant of Jacob and the other nations. They have all come into the Heavenly Jerusalem and the heavenly mt Zion by faith.
As this age draws to a close a remnant of Esau and the other nations will join with the House of Israel and Judah as friends (or ‘companions’ in the KJV, Ezek 37:16) and return to the land. Just as there was a mixed multitude in the first exodus from Egypt so will it be in the second exodus from the North Country and elsewhere.
As we are told plainly in Acts 15 the Lord will build the tabernacle of David afterwards and the remnant of Men (lit. “Edom”, Amos 9:12) will call upon the Lord. In a sense the Lord has already been building a spiritual tabernacle these past 2000 years as we have come into the heavenly Jerusalem by faith. But soon there will be a literal return to the physical Jerusalem and the physical Mount Zion
As this age draws to a close a remnant of Esau and the other nations will join with the House of Israel and Judah as friends (or ‘companions’ in the KJV, Ezek 37:16) and return to the land. Just as there was a mixed multitude in the first exodus from Egypt so will it be in the second exodus from the North Country and elsewhere.
As we are told plainly in Acts 15 the Lord will build the tabernacle of David afterwards and the remnant of Men (lit. “Edom”, Amos 9:12) will call upon the Lord. In a sense the Lord has already been building a spiritual tabernacle these past 2000 years as we have come into the heavenly Jerusalem by faith. But soon there will be a literal return to the physical Jerusalem and the physical Mount Zion
Acts 15:16-17
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men <“Edom”, Amos 9:12> might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
At a certain time the Lord will complete the spiritual house above to the stage when the “fullness of the gentiles” be come in, Romans 11:25. This is not the Jews as is commonly thought but the remnant of Ephraim, Gen 48:19 who’s seed is promised to be the fullness of the gentiles (translated “multitude of nations” in the KJV).
So we are awaiting the regathering of 10 lost tribes of Israel and the joining with them of Judah (Jews). Along with them will be the remnant of Edom as we are told and the rebuilding of the tabernacle of David, which means the Davidic throne, temple and Levitical Priesthood.
This occurs before the tribulation but after an outpouring of the Holy Spirit during world war when there will be “palm trees of smoke”, Joel 2:30. Esau/Edom is still alive at this time.
So we are awaiting the regathering of 10 lost tribes of Israel and the joining with them of Judah (Jews). Along with them will be the remnant of Edom as we are told and the rebuilding of the tabernacle of David, which means the Davidic throne, temple and Levitical Priesthood.
This occurs before the tribulation but after an outpouring of the Holy Spirit during world war when there will be “palm trees of smoke”, Joel 2:30. Esau/Edom is still alive at this time.
-Regathered from destroyed America and western world after WW3
Palmtrees of smoke
I have written copiously on this website on the pretribulation regathering of Israel and Judah after world war 3. Sadly most Americans and others just don’t get it. They think that the end of the USA is the end of the world. They assume that the New World Order’s next goal is the tribulation when in fact it is the dissolution of the current western world and church both Catholic and Protestant. What is planned is the regathering of wickedness to the land of Shinar, Zech 5. America is a prototype of last days Babylon. But America is NOT last days Babylon. Yet it contains Babylon. But so does London, Sydney, Melbourne, Toronto and Berlin and Paris and many other cities and nations. All of these are simply tentacles of Rome, which are the legs of Iron of the Babylonian image of Nebuchadnezzar. All nations are under her power. That is who the Jesuits and Political Zionists report to – Rome! The Jesuits and Rome control world affairs. The protestant reformation is all but over, the catholic hierarchy uses Jesuits and Freemasons to undermine protestant nations. Now all that is left is the last bastion of freedom in the USA which still has a little kick left in it. But except for remnant it’s all but over for sleepy Laodicean Churchianity. The last post protestant nation to commit suicide is the USA. Europe is dead. Australia and New Zealand are gospel hardened and impenitent. Now it’s just a mopping up operation in the USA via FEMA camps and FEMA Pastors. It doesn’t matter whether the Right wing starts up the FEMA camps for the lefties or the Left starts it up for the right. The FEMA Camps and the empty Walmart’s will be filled with more than just Popcorn and free wifi. The enemies of the church of Rome will find themselves there if they don’t take heed to the Lord and listen to His commandments and hear his voice and live yielded lives before Him.
So America must be judged by the Lord via the NWO and WW3. This is not the tribulation; it’s just the end of the western world and Torah averse Sabbath breaking church. And yes all western nations will be on the chopping block. Out of the wreckage a remnant of Esau and Jacob (Jacob = Jews and 10 lost tribes) will escape to the ‘North Country’ and ultimately the real Promised Land, the mountains of Israel.
But for now they cannot return to the land because believers in Yeshua are barred. Even Jews have a hard time living in the mountains of Israel and Judah – what is called the ‘west bank’. Israel does not yet truly have the upper hand. When Israel and Jerusalem are down, Esau and Babylon are up and are ruling. At present the Jews are not in complete control of Israel. A sovereign nation does not need to get the approval of Uncle Sam before it makes a policy decision. The Jews are in the land of their fathers, but Jacob is still bowing down before Esau. But slowly, slowly, slowly the nation is getting materially stronger. Ultimately the battle will be for Jerusalem where the Pope would love to rule the world from.
(However the Jesuits do not want to just destroy Protestantism. Catholicism has also had its day. The inner paganism within Catholicism needs new vestments. It will be reorganized as the religion of Babylon in Iraq after Rome burns in WW3. Catholicism and Islam and other religions will merge then after WW3. The lost tribes of Israel will come together nearby in the North Country.
This is where history is going. No red carpet to the Promised Land from the USA. Much blood and sweat and tears and Palm trees of smoke and a great worldwide migration of peoples after the worst carnage the world has ever seen. And it’s not the tribulation, but world war 3 and the awakening of Israel and the emergence of last days rebuilt Babylon. And a remnant of Edom is coming with us.
So America must be judged by the Lord via the NWO and WW3. This is not the tribulation; it’s just the end of the western world and Torah averse Sabbath breaking church. And yes all western nations will be on the chopping block. Out of the wreckage a remnant of Esau and Jacob (Jacob = Jews and 10 lost tribes) will escape to the ‘North Country’ and ultimately the real Promised Land, the mountains of Israel.
But for now they cannot return to the land because believers in Yeshua are barred. Even Jews have a hard time living in the mountains of Israel and Judah – what is called the ‘west bank’. Israel does not yet truly have the upper hand. When Israel and Jerusalem are down, Esau and Babylon are up and are ruling. At present the Jews are not in complete control of Israel. A sovereign nation does not need to get the approval of Uncle Sam before it makes a policy decision. The Jews are in the land of their fathers, but Jacob is still bowing down before Esau. But slowly, slowly, slowly the nation is getting materially stronger. Ultimately the battle will be for Jerusalem where the Pope would love to rule the world from.
(However the Jesuits do not want to just destroy Protestantism. Catholicism has also had its day. The inner paganism within Catholicism needs new vestments. It will be reorganized as the religion of Babylon in Iraq after Rome burns in WW3. Catholicism and Islam and other religions will merge then after WW3. The lost tribes of Israel will come together nearby in the North Country.
This is where history is going. No red carpet to the Promised Land from the USA. Much blood and sweat and tears and Palm trees of smoke and a great worldwide migration of peoples after the worst carnage the world has ever seen. And it’s not the tribulation, but world war 3 and the awakening of Israel and the emergence of last days rebuilt Babylon. And a remnant of Edom is coming with us.
Edom comes under Judah
Edom’s land was next to Judah on the east between the bottom of the Dead Sea and Eilat. God gave that land to Esau. Edom has long since migrated from his ancient land and is currently residing in the same nations that the lost tribes reside and is serving his brother Jacob and seeking to throw off the yoke in fulfilment of the prophecy concerning him, he like Jacob dwells in the “fat of the land”.
King David of the tribe of Judah conquered Edom
In times of reformation there is a remnant of Edom that repents. Historically they have come under Judah’s rule or even Levi’s when Israel is in the land and pleases the Lord. They were subjugated under King David and rebelled after Solomon. They were also brought to subjugation under the Maccabee named John Hyrcanus...
King David of the tribe of Judah conquered Edom
In times of reformation there is a remnant of Edom that repents. Historically they have come under Judah’s rule or even Levi’s when Israel is in the land and pleases the Lord. They were subjugated under King David and rebelled after Solomon. They were also brought to subjugation under the Maccabee named John Hyrcanus...
“Antiquities Of The Jews” by Flavius Josephus
Book 13 Chapter 9 verse 24-25 (or 13:257)
(About 125 BC)
"Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, (25) and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time therefore this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews."
Thus Edomites have adopted the religion of the Israelites from time to time. During the ministry of Yeshua there were people from Idumea (Edom) that were attracted by the gospel, Mark 4:4. There has been a remnant of Edom always to some extent throughout time. Thus we have the necessity for the torah commandment to “not abhor an Edomite”, Deut 23:7, even though Edomites have a strong tendency to live by the sword and turn upon Israelites when they are weak. Sometimes they have been allied to Israel for the briefest of times but they also turn upon them without mercy.
“Wars of the Jews” by Flavius Josephus
Book 4 Chapters 4 & 5
Book 4, Chapter 4 Summary
(70 AD, during the siege of Jerusalem)
THE IDUMEANS BEING SENT FOR BY THE ZEALOTS, CAME IMMEDIATELY TO JERUSALEM; AND WHEN THEY WERE EXCLUDED OUT OF THE CITY, THEY LAY ALL NIGHT THERE. JESUS ONE OF THE HIGH PRIESTS MAKES A SPEECH TO THEM; AND SIMON THE IDUMEAN MAKES A REPLY TO IT.
Book 4, Chapter 5 Summary
THE CRUELTY OF THE IDUMEANS WHEN THEY WERE GOTTEN INTO THE TEMPLE DURING THE STORM; AND OF THE ZEALOTS. CONCERNING THE SLAUGHTER OF ANANUS, AND JESUS, AND ZACHARIAS; AND HOW THE IDUMEANS RETIRED HOME.
Here is an extract…
“But the rage of the Idumeans was not satiated by these slaughters; but they now betook themselves to the city, and plundered every house, and slew every one they met; and for the other multitude, they esteemed it needless to go on with killing them, but they sought for the high priests, and the generality went with the greatest zeal against them; and as soon as they caught them they slew them, and then standing upon their dead bodies, in way of jest, upbraided Ananus with his kindness to the people, and Jesus with his speech made to them from the wall. Nay, they proceeded to that degree of impiety, as to cast away their dead bodies without burial, although the Jews used to take so much care of the burial of men, that they took down those that were condemned and crucified, and buried them before the going down of the sun.
The account here also goes on to talk about the murder of the High Priest Ananus. Sadly we have Israelites against Israelites, even so called Levites against Levites going to Edom for help. It’s a bloody mess. God help us! Let us read on…
"I should not mistake if I said that the death of Ananus was the beginning of the destruction of the city, and that from this very day may be dated the overthrow of her wall, and the ruin of her affairs, whereon they saw their high priest, and the procurer of their preservation, slain in the midst of their city. He was on other accounts also a venerable, and a very just man; and besides the grandeur of that nobility, and dignity, and honor of which he was possessed, he had been a lover of a kind of parity, even with regard to the meanest of the people; he was a prodigious lover of liberty, and an admirer of a democracy in government; and did ever prefer the public welfare before his own advantage, and preferred peace above all things; for he was thoroughly sensible that the Romans were not to be conquered.”
When I read this horrifying account I am reminded of the Psalm that states…
Psalms 137:7-9
7 זְכֹר יְהוָה לִבְנֵי אֱדֹום אֵת יֹום יְֽרוּשָׁלִָם הָאֹמְרִים עָרוּ עָרוּ עַד הַיְסֹוד בָּֽהּ׃
8 בַּת־בָּבֶל הַשְּׁדוּדָה אַשְׁרֵי שֶׁיְשַׁלֶּם־לָךְ אֶת־גְּמוּלֵךְ שֶׁגָּמַלְתְּ לָֽנוּ׃
9 אַשְׁרֵי שֶׁיֹּאחֵז וְנִפֵּץ אֶֽת־עֹלָלַיִךְ אֶל־הַסָּֽלַע׃
7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.
8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.
It seems that when Edom comes against Israel, the Psalmist thinks that it is a joyful thing to smash Edomite children into the rocks. This is inspired payback. So Edom should watch his anger, because ultimately Israel will play the man and repay him with grizzly blood soaked vengeance. I wonder if folks ever take this stuff in really. If you think that is bad, wait until the Lord comes to Bozrah with his garments dyed red, ..
Isaiah 63:1-6
מִי־זֶה בָּא מֵאֱדֹום חֲמוּץ בְּגָדִים מִבָּצְרָה זֶה הָדוּר בִּלְבוּשֹׁו צֹעֶה בְּרֹב כֹּחֹו אֲנִי מְדַבֵּר בִּצְדָקָה רַב לְהֹושִֽׁיעַ׃
2 מַדּוּעַ אָדֹם לִלְבוּשֶׁךָ וּבְגָדֶיךָ כְּדֹרֵךְ בְּגַֽת׃
3 פּוּרָה דָּרַכְתִּי לְבַדִּי וּמֵֽעַמִּים אֵֽין־אִישׁ אִתִּי וְאֶדְרְכֵם בְּאַפִּי וְאֶרְמְסֵם בַּחֲמָתִי וְיֵז נִצְחָם עַל־בְּגָדַי וְכָל־מַלְבּוּשַׁי אֶגְאָֽלְתִּי׃
4 כִּי יֹום נָקָם בְּלִבִּי וּשְׁנַת גְּאוּלַי בָּֽאָה׃
5 וְאַבִּיט וְאֵין עֹזֵר וְאֶשְׁתֹּומֵם וְאֵין סֹומֵךְ וַתֹּושַֽׁע לִי זְרֹעִי וַחֲמָתִי הִיא סְמָכָֽתְנִי׃
6 וְאָבוּס עַמִּים בְּאַפִּי וַאֲשַׁכְּרֵם בַּחֲמָתִי וְאֹורִיד לָאָרֶץ נִצְחָֽם׃
1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.
Here Yeshua as YHVH returns with vengence and becomes Edom in the sense that his garments are died red (Edom) with Edom's blood. Perhaps indeed it is a kindness that He has blinded both Edom and Jacob as to Edom's identity. God is saving the good from Edom before it's too late.
How gracious is our Saviour.
How gracious is our Saviour.
Edomite antipathy towards the priesthood of Levi.
Hur opposes Aaron. (in a good sense)
Doeg vs the Priests. (in a bad sense -he killed them!)
Herod vs John the Baptist (Put his head on a silver platter. Not nice.)
The hatred that the Edomites generally possess towards the Jews is matched by their hatred for the Levitical priesthood as we have seen above. Doeg the Edomite convert who works for Saul and a shepherd kills the priests in the time of David at Saul’s command.
Doeg vs the Priests. (in a bad sense -he killed them!)
Herod vs John the Baptist (Put his head on a silver platter. Not nice.)
The hatred that the Edomites generally possess towards the Jews is matched by their hatred for the Levitical priesthood as we have seen above. Doeg the Edomite convert who works for Saul and a shepherd kills the priests in the time of David at Saul’s command.
1 Samuel 22:18
וַיֹּאמֶר הַמֶּלֶךְ לְדֹואֵג סֹב אַתָּה וּפְגַע בַּכֹּהֲנִים וַיִּסֹּב דֹּואֵג הָאֲדֹמִי
וַיִּפְגַּע־הוּא בַּכֹּהֲנִים וַיָּמֶת בַּיֹּום הַהוּא שְׁמֹנִים וַחֲמִשָּׁה אִישׁ נֹשֵׂא אֵפֹוד בָּֽד׃
18 And the king said to Doeg, Turn thou, and fall upon the priests. And Doeg the Edomite turned, and he fell upon the priests, and slew on that day fourscore and five persons that did wear a linen ephod.
On a personal note I have seen this open hostility from Messianic folks with all the trates of Edom who belittle and oppose the priesthood of Levi, even today. Yes we know that we belong to a different priesthood related to the non-Levitical Melchizedek priesthood of Yeshua, Hebrews 7. But I have seen an antipathy to the lower priesthood of Levi that bespeaks of Esau’s secret hatred of Jacob. The Levitical priests were commanded not to have divorced or non-Israelite wives because they represent the sexual and bloodline purity of the physical seed of the woman (Israel). A common Israelite or Levite was not under such strong restrictions as the priest. This has not been rescinded by some ‘change in the law’. The Levitical priesthood will remain throughout the millennium as they have a job to do along with Judah in transmitting the law to the common Israelites. The sons of Zadok will stand fast even if other priests and common Levites fall away, Ezekiel 43:19, 44:15, 48:11. This is future prophecy. Thus there will be a rebuilt temple in the reunified Israel and Judah before the tribulation. The role of the Levitical Priesthood is to transmit the Torah to Israel to bring spiritual purity and cleansing and propitiation according to the feast days and prepare Israel as the bride to meet the groom as John the Baptist knew full well, John 3:29.
To me this messianic hatred of Levi is particularly ungrateful, vile and disgusting. They wouldn’t have a Torah to study unless Moses the Levite met God in Mt Sinai. They wouldn’t have an Israel for Yeshua to be born in without the Levitical Maccabees. They wouldn’t have a Yeshua to cling to without a Levite called John the Baptist who announces his coming. It’s like a dog biting the very hand that feeds them.
And so Edom ever seeks mastery over Israel, and Levi stands in their way. Edom is proud and loves to be first and longs to rule over others. The gentiles that are outside the covenant are likened to dogs and other beasts in scripture. Dogs have a pack leader and a chain of command. Israelites are more egalitarian by nature, being a nation of shepherds rather than cruel and demonic hunters of men. Israelites fight out of necessity not because they love the sword. Edom not only loves the sword, but he harbours secret hatred in his heart towards his brother.
So we see that even Edomite believers harbour in their bosom ancient bloodline lusts and hatred against Judah and Levi. Many of those Israelite Identity groups that drone on and on about Edomite Jews are Edomite Christians! Jew obsessed. What a Joke! (By the way, many white Christians may see America being overrun by pagan non-white Muslim and Mexican Catholic folks and blame the Jews. But do they ever blame the Pope to whom the Jews and the freemasons in government and commerce ultimately have to report to? The Leaders of the House of Judah rejected the Messiah Yeshua and stated that they have no king but Caesar! Rome! Do these same Identity folk even realize that America is run from Rome and for Rome? America is Rome’s Army. And Edom lives by the sword! Life for Christians in the Middle East has gotten worse after Uncle Sam visited. It’s by design.
Even if these Edomite believers are truly saved, whether Christian Identity or Messianic or otherwise, there is a penalty for despising the Jews or the Levites in particular; there will come a time when their descendants are cut off forever. The last battle our Saviour and redeemer, the Lord God Yeshua has is with Edom…
To me this messianic hatred of Levi is particularly ungrateful, vile and disgusting. They wouldn’t have a Torah to study unless Moses the Levite met God in Mt Sinai. They wouldn’t have an Israel for Yeshua to be born in without the Levitical Maccabees. They wouldn’t have a Yeshua to cling to without a Levite called John the Baptist who announces his coming. It’s like a dog biting the very hand that feeds them.
And so Edom ever seeks mastery over Israel, and Levi stands in their way. Edom is proud and loves to be first and longs to rule over others. The gentiles that are outside the covenant are likened to dogs and other beasts in scripture. Dogs have a pack leader and a chain of command. Israelites are more egalitarian by nature, being a nation of shepherds rather than cruel and demonic hunters of men. Israelites fight out of necessity not because they love the sword. Edom not only loves the sword, but he harbours secret hatred in his heart towards his brother.
So we see that even Edomite believers harbour in their bosom ancient bloodline lusts and hatred against Judah and Levi. Many of those Israelite Identity groups that drone on and on about Edomite Jews are Edomite Christians! Jew obsessed. What a Joke! (By the way, many white Christians may see America being overrun by pagan non-white Muslim and Mexican Catholic folks and blame the Jews. But do they ever blame the Pope to whom the Jews and the freemasons in government and commerce ultimately have to report to? The Leaders of the House of Judah rejected the Messiah Yeshua and stated that they have no king but Caesar! Rome! Do these same Identity folk even realize that America is run from Rome and for Rome? America is Rome’s Army. And Edom lives by the sword! Life for Christians in the Middle East has gotten worse after Uncle Sam visited. It’s by design.
Even if these Edomite believers are truly saved, whether Christian Identity or Messianic or otherwise, there is a penalty for despising the Jews or the Levites in particular; there will come a time when their descendants are cut off forever. The last battle our Saviour and redeemer, the Lord God Yeshua has is with Edom…
Isaiah 63:1-4
1מִי־זֶה בָּא מֵאֱדֹום חֲמוּץ בְּגָדִים מִבָּצְרָה זֶה הָדוּר בִּלְבוּשֹׁו צֹעֶה בְּרֹב כֹּחֹו אֲנִי מְדַבֵּר בִּצְדָקָה רַב לְהֹושִֽׁיעַ׃
2 מַדּוּעַ אָדֹם לִלְבוּשֶׁךָ וּבְגָדֶיךָ כְּדֹרֵךְ בְּגַֽת׃
3 פּוּרָה דָּרַכְתִּי לְבַדִּי וּמֵֽעַמִּים אֵֽין־אִישׁ אִתִּי וְאֶדְרְכֵם בְּאַפִּי וְאֶרְמְסֵם בַּחֲמָתִי וְיֵז נִצְחָם עַל־בְּגָדַי וְכָל־מַלְבּוּשַׁי אֶגְאָֽלְתִּי׃
4 כִּי יֹום נָקָם בְּלִבִּי וּשְׁנַת גְּאוּלַי בָּֽאָה׃
1 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.
2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?
3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.
4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.
So there is a price to pay for this ancient hostility – extinction of the race and bloodline of Edom so that nothing the breaths is left. Jacob pays his last visit to Mt Sier via the Messiah and Edom is no more.
Until that day there is still something worth saving in Edom. The bulk of Edom resides in the USA along with the bulk of Jacob composed of Jews and the 10 lost tribes.
Until that day there is still something worth saving in Edom. The bulk of Edom resides in the USA along with the bulk of Jacob composed of Jews and the 10 lost tribes.
What good does Edom bring?
Good question!
Briefly though, the remnant of Edom can bring...
Faith, Purity, holiness, & right judgement!
Let's look at the scriptures at some notable good Edomite converts.
We know that with gnarly and knotted twisted acacia (‘shittim’) the Lord constructed the Ark of the Covenant. With rams skins dyed red (Edom) and goat skins the tabernacle fabric was wrought.
Briefly though, the remnant of Edom can bring...
Faith, Purity, holiness, & right judgement!
Let's look at the scriptures at some notable good Edomite converts.
- Purity in Hur (which means white or blanched, ie purity)
- Wisdom was a feature of the Nobles of Edom (in Teman), Jer 49:7
- Right Judgement and valour in Othniel the Judge.
- Faith is displayed in Caleb as discussed earlier
We know that with gnarly and knotted twisted acacia (‘shittim’) the Lord constructed the Ark of the Covenant. With rams skins dyed red (Edom) and goat skins the tabernacle fabric was wrought.
Exodus 25:5
וְעֹרֹת אֵילִם מְאָדָּמִים וְעֹרֹת תְּחָשִׁים וַעֲצֵי שִׁטִּֽים׃
And rams' skins dyed red, and badgers' skins, and shittim wood,
The master of the House, Yeshua, the wise carpenter and master builder, is fashioning his House, his ‘Church’ (Kohellet) out of some unlikely material including Edom. Two verses that meant a great deal to me when I came to Yeshua at the age of 18 in 1986 were…
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
So if you discover you are from Edom instead of Jacob, cheer up! Bad things may indeed be in your blood, but you have new spiritual blood now. Masonic curses maybe upon you, but Yeshua became a curse for you. You may have anti-Semitic feelings, had some bad experiences with Jews or others. This is real, but it is the past. What counts is who you are looking to. Yeshua is bringing us all to an end of ourselves whoever we are, Jew or Gentile, bond or free. What counts is what God is making from the raw material which is you.
Hebrews 12:1-2
1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
When the Amalekites were attacking Israel Moses sent Joshua and his chosen dream team out to fight. As long as Moses arms were raised up Israel triumphed, Ex 17:11-12. But who lifted up his arms? – Aaron and Hur. Aaron was the Father of the priests and brother of Moses, a Levite. Hur was from Edom via Caleb, 1 Chron 2:19. Caleb in some genealogies is listed as from Hezron from Judah but else where he is stated to come from Kenez. Kenez is from Esau. So Hur was from Caleb who was physically from Esau via Kenez but spiritually from Judah via Hezron where he was adopted.
So in this sense in order for Amalek to be defeated it requires the Aaronic priesthood plus something that comes from Hur. The secret is what Hur means in Hebrew. Hur (H2354 means H2353 white linen), this denotes purity.
So what Edom brings in this sense is purity! Hur is on one side of Moses and Aaron is on the other. In a bad sense Hur opposes Aaron. In a positive sense, Hur compliments Aaron. We need purity, not just truth and outward performance of the commandments. We need inner purity.
In dealing with sin within, the remnant of Edom can bring after many years of self-denial a higher purity than many an Israelite, or even a priest. So in this sense the very things that are against an Edomite in the flesh are secretly for him in Christ if he struggles with it and Yeshua gains mastery over his flesh, his carnal nature.
So in this sense in order for Amalek to be defeated it requires the Aaronic priesthood plus something that comes from Hur. The secret is what Hur means in Hebrew. Hur (H2354 means H2353 white linen), this denotes purity.
So what Edom brings in this sense is purity! Hur is on one side of Moses and Aaron is on the other. In a bad sense Hur opposes Aaron. In a positive sense, Hur compliments Aaron. We need purity, not just truth and outward performance of the commandments. We need inner purity.
In dealing with sin within, the remnant of Edom can bring after many years of self-denial a higher purity than many an Israelite, or even a priest. So in this sense the very things that are against an Edomite in the flesh are secretly for him in Christ if he struggles with it and Yeshua gains mastery over his flesh, his carnal nature.
Conclusion
We have a covered a lot of ground and we have only scratched the surface. If the church has been blind to torah and sabbaths and the 10 lost tribes then they have also been asleep at the wheel concerning Edom. Sadly this awakening to who Edom is has not yet come. Perhaps after the FEMA camps there will be an awakening as to where Jacob's brother is.
Hopefully some folks will now indeed begin to realize and recognize that Edom / Esau is right where Jacob is. And if the 10 lost tribes are in the USA then surprise surprise, so is Esau too. Esau will always have a tendency towards warfare and the occult (Freemasonry and Catholicism for example). But there has been a large percentage of Esau within the Church that truly loves the Lord. Wherever Jacob is, there is Esau also.
When it comes to judgement of the 10 lost tribes, Esau will be used to cut them down, before he too is cut down.
The remnant of Esau can provide positive help and order to the lost tribes of Israel. Just like Othniel and Caleb, there are some of Esau that can judge justly and righteously and put their swords to good use defending Israel.
Folks tend to mingle with people that they feel comfortable with and feel a bond with. Blood is oftentimes thicker than water. Within America and elsewhere like Australia and New Zealand there will be some of Esau that band together as a remnant while others join in with the Israelite tribal messianic groups.
All of this will be over most folks heads, but at some stage in the future many will see what is plainly visible to a very few. I have shared this simply to let folks know that Israel is not the only nation that will return to the promised land. Esau will return with them and some of Esau will try and rebuild his ancient rocky mountain high in the land of Edom in modern day Jordan. These will mostly be white American Christians that want to return to where the Eagle flies. Edom's Eagle.
Again the purpose of this is not to denigrate anybody but simply to state a fact, that Esau and Jacob will soon be identified and separated from amongst the white anglo saxon protestants within America and wherever else they wandered like New Zealand and Australia and Canada. (South Africa's white christian population is more Esau the hunter than Jacob the shepherd). World War 3 and the FEMA camps will thin out Jacob. Esau will be next. Then the return to the North Country to get our language skills and torah based Hebrew culture together before we come out of the North Country and join with the House of Judah. This all takes time. The end of Christian America is not the end of the world, any more than World War 1 or 2 or 3!!!
When the House of Israel joins with the House of Judah, the Davidic Monarchy and Levitical Temple Worship and Sacrificial system will be in operation. At that stage we will possess the remnant of Edom. There will be a messianic era of unknown duration before the tribulation.
Sorry folks some things take time. But World War 3 is just around the bend. Try not to go around the bend with it. Keep your eyes on Yeshua who is God manifest in flesh. And keep His commandments and listen to His voice.
Cheers and Shalom and Godbless
Rory
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Hopefully some folks will now indeed begin to realize and recognize that Edom / Esau is right where Jacob is. And if the 10 lost tribes are in the USA then surprise surprise, so is Esau too. Esau will always have a tendency towards warfare and the occult (Freemasonry and Catholicism for example). But there has been a large percentage of Esau within the Church that truly loves the Lord. Wherever Jacob is, there is Esau also.
When it comes to judgement of the 10 lost tribes, Esau will be used to cut them down, before he too is cut down.
The remnant of Esau can provide positive help and order to the lost tribes of Israel. Just like Othniel and Caleb, there are some of Esau that can judge justly and righteously and put their swords to good use defending Israel.
Folks tend to mingle with people that they feel comfortable with and feel a bond with. Blood is oftentimes thicker than water. Within America and elsewhere like Australia and New Zealand there will be some of Esau that band together as a remnant while others join in with the Israelite tribal messianic groups.
All of this will be over most folks heads, but at some stage in the future many will see what is plainly visible to a very few. I have shared this simply to let folks know that Israel is not the only nation that will return to the promised land. Esau will return with them and some of Esau will try and rebuild his ancient rocky mountain high in the land of Edom in modern day Jordan. These will mostly be white American Christians that want to return to where the Eagle flies. Edom's Eagle.
Again the purpose of this is not to denigrate anybody but simply to state a fact, that Esau and Jacob will soon be identified and separated from amongst the white anglo saxon protestants within America and wherever else they wandered like New Zealand and Australia and Canada. (South Africa's white christian population is more Esau the hunter than Jacob the shepherd). World War 3 and the FEMA camps will thin out Jacob. Esau will be next. Then the return to the North Country to get our language skills and torah based Hebrew culture together before we come out of the North Country and join with the House of Judah. This all takes time. The end of Christian America is not the end of the world, any more than World War 1 or 2 or 3!!!
When the House of Israel joins with the House of Judah, the Davidic Monarchy and Levitical Temple Worship and Sacrificial system will be in operation. At that stage we will possess the remnant of Edom. There will be a messianic era of unknown duration before the tribulation.
Sorry folks some things take time. But World War 3 is just around the bend. Try not to go around the bend with it. Keep your eyes on Yeshua who is God manifest in flesh. And keep His commandments and listen to His voice.
Cheers and Shalom and Godbless
Rory
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